. . . In This Issue.

Lee Rossi at the November Meeting.

Quote of the Month - John F. Kennedy.

End of Life Choices.

"Reply to Dr. Juan Bernal" by Gene Barmore.

Humor- "How Do You Get to Heaven?'

 

At the November 16th Meeting

Poet Lee Rossi.

Lee Rossi was born in St. Louis, Missouri. He studied 5 years for the Roman Catholic priesthood. Has a B.A., St. Louis University and Ph.D., from Cornell. Too good at school to quit -- M.B.A., UCLA. Marriied three times, divorced just twice. Author of two ESL (English as a Second Language) textbooks. A critical study of C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien (The Politics of Fantasy). Two published book of poems (Beyond Rescue, Bombshelter Press, 1992, and Ghost Diary, Terrapin Press, 2003), and has another manuscript rounding into shape. Lee has held many jobs: teaching, college administrator, computer sales, dba (database administrator), programmer, Quik Shop clerk, mail sorter, busboy, awning factory assembler. Hobbies: Zen meditation, personal experience of God. Poetry is the river that flows through my nights.

 

Quote of the Month:

"Conformity is the jailer of freedom and the enemy of growth." ...John F. Kennedy

 

END OF LIFE CHOICES

End-of-Life Choices is the oldest and largest right to die organization in North America. It is a nonprofit organization supported by memberships and donations. Choices receives no government funding.

It was founded in 1980 by Derek Humphry, who launched the dying-with-dignity movement in the United States by writing about his decision to help his terminally ill wife, Jean, achieve her wish of a peaceful, dignified death.

Choices has 30,000 members in 90 chapters throughout the United States. Members have access to programs that help them and their loved ones examine the full range of their end-of-life options, including the option of hastening the dying process.

Choices’ mission is to educate, inform and advocate. The organization oversees and manages political and legislative activities aimed at changing the law so that dying patients can choose a peaceful death as part of the continuum of care at the end of life. It also provides its members with the resources to help them and their loved ones maintain control of the final chapters of their lives. Choices has local chapters across the country and supports the formation of new chapters.

Choices believes that every terminally ill, mentally competent American should have access to the full range of end-of-life choices. The organization believes that depriving someone of choice and dignity in the final chapters of life is morally and ethically wrong. Choices advocates that physicians should have the right to help terminally ill patients achieve a peaceful death, if that is the patients desire because no government has the right to legislate over death On July 21, 2003, Choices’ (formerly known as The Hemlock Society) name change became official. The organization changed its name to more accurately describe the issues it supports.

The new tagline for the organization is ‘Dignity Compassion Control,’ words that also reflect the promise and the overall passion behind Choices’ mission.

Chapters exist in 31 states.

Annual dues are $35 for individuals and $43 for couples. Lifetime membership is also available.

Each chapter designates its own meeting time.

There are three ways to join Choices—by mail, phone or online. Call 800.247.7421 or your local chapter for more information or visit http://www.endoflifechoices.org

Editor's Note: From a Humanist perspective end of life choices are a matter of personal freedom. The individual should have an inherent right to make important decisions about their lives without the government or religious organizations dictating what is moral or what that choice should be.

The laws in place in Holland and the Oregon law have shown that speculative arguments such as the slippery slope argument are empty. As long as the individual's wishes are maintained and all proper safeguards are adhered to every person should have the right to make these decisions for themselves. Unfortunately, that is not now the case.

Reply to Dr. Juan Bernal

By Gene Barmore

First, I want to point out that Juan never deals with my main point—how may the concepts of natural selection best be spread firmly throughout our citizenry?

As for his comments on my citations and comments, I feel that he has misinterpreted them. My first citation of Michael Behe is that he (one of the three pillars of ID) accepts a billions of years old universe and that all organisms share a common ancestry. Now while this may not be an all-out endorsement of Darwinism, it certainly blows holes in Biblical literalists views, and I suggested that his statement be spread liberally among them. I also stated that Behe’s presupposition is religious, and therefore not scientific. That’s hardly using him to support my position—quite the opposite.

I did not support the view that science "has nothing to do with religion" by citing Scott and Eldredge. Science has had plenty to do with religion by revealing the nature of the natural world. I wont take the space to requote, along with Juan’s interpretation. You can read it in the September and October Newsletters. (You threw them away? On request, I’ll send you copies.)

Juan has a valid objection to Scott’s statement that there is no vast disagreement between science and religion. I wish she had said "some religions’ ‘,and would guess that that is what she meant. After all, the mission of her work is to show up the differences between some religions and science/evolution. But Juan then weakens his position by trying to prove his point by suggesting that we clarify what WE mean by "religion". That would only prove the point for US, not for those who choose a different definition.

I am not aware that Eldredge ever said that scientists should not raise doubts about God’s existence. In the quote I offered, he criticized scientists who claim that their science "...demonstrates unequivocally that there is no God."

Juan is mistaken when he says that I apparently accept some of Behe’s argument for ID. I specifically state that I reject ID, even at the molecular level, but that I do so out of my position as a scientific materialist, rather than because I understand the evidence. (Can’t I be a little humble?) My understanding of the scientific materialist position is that all matter/energy phenomena have the potential to be explained by science, and not at all by supernatural explanations.

Now let’s get on to the important question, stated above.

The evidence is overwhelming that our schools are filled with pupils whose parents have some kind of religious belief These beliefs range from biblical literalism to scientific compatibility. We know that humans, in general, are reluctant to give up their religious beliefs. But as schools teach the the facts of evolution, as the media present them as accepted fact, and as museums display the evidence, religious people will adjust their beliefs for a better fit with science, even as scientists continue to narrow the reach of religion. To proclaim that science proves—that evolution demonstrates— that there is no deity, is not helpful to this process. I therefore accept the reasoning of Dr. Scott, Executive Director of the National Center for Science Education, that science is limited to explaining the natural world.

Would That Get Me To Heaven?

One Sunday the Sunday School teacher asked the class:

"If I sold my house and my car, had a big garage sale, and gave all my money to the church, would that get me into Heaven?" "NO!" the children all answered.

"If I cleaned the church every day, mowed the yard, and kept everything neat and tidy, would that get me into Heaven?"

Again, the answer was, "NO!"

"Well, then, if I was kind to animals and gave candy to all the children and loved my wife or husband, would that get me into Heaven?"

I asked them again. Again, they all answered, "NO!"

"Well, I continued, "then how can I get into heaven?"

A five-year-old boy stood up and shouted out,

"YOU GOTTA BE DEAD!"